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Post time 2016-2-1 19:00:50 |Show all posts |
Edited by Yellow at 2016-3-2 18:24


The following changes and improvements were made to X7 FW1.8 over FW1.5:

1. Added USB DAC function (DAC driver required for windows; driver-free for Mac);
2. Added support for AM2 (medium-power) headphone amplifier module;
3. Increased sound quality of third party apps when playing hi-res music of higher than 44.1kHz sample rate;
4. Increased volume of third party apps;
5. Increased bluetooth volume;
6. Fixed some UI display issues.

The following changes and improvements were made to the FiiO Music music player app:
1. Added DLAN function;
2. Fixed issue where albums under the Artists listing could not be opened for browsing;
3. Fixed issue where a library scan may fail on occasion;
4. "Prev track" button now goes back to beginning to present track if it has been playing for more than 10s;
5. Fixed issue where the app registers as "not responding" while scanning the X7 for media; added "scanning" notification to UI;
6. Whole-album music files are now hidden when they are split by a CUE sheet (the split tracks are shown);
7. Volume can now be adjusted by sliding finger up and down the screen after volume interface is shown by pressing volume buttons;
8. Fixed issue where adjusting lyrics' position offset on one song affected offset on all songs;
9. Fixed issue where Bluetooth devices could not control play and pause actions;
10. Fixed issue where the song listings do not update after an automatic media library update;
11. Fixed issue where Next and Prev track do not take effect after adjusting an EQ setting;
12. Playback position within Favorites can now also be memorized on exiting.

Note: Firmware version 1.3 and above will get push notifications for updates automatically over-the-air, so you can update it via OTA after connecting to WiFi. If there is no push notifications for FW1.8, please kindly re-connect to WiFi or restart the X7.


X7 FW 1.8: >> Download link

X7 USB DAC Driver + installation tutorial: >>Download Address

How to upgrade the X7 firmware: >> Click here
X7 App installation tutorial: >> Click here

X7 DLNA Usage Guide: >> Click here
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Post time 2016-2-8 23:15:36 |Show all posts |
sur mon fiio X7 la barre de navigation occupe la partie inférieure de l'écran. elle empute certaines applications qui ne peuvent s'afficher totalement d'une partie de leur fonctions et les rendent inutilisables. ce serait une bonne idée dans la prochaine mise a jour d’ajouter dans les paramètres la possibilité de masquer la barre de navigation pour libérer la partie inférieure de l’écran
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Post time 2016-3-8 23:20:45 |Show all posts |
Edited by Max_X7 at 2016-3-9 23:46

Hello,

I would be greatful if someone can explain me how to use the new 1.8 firmware's main options: X7 as an external DAC and DLNA function.

I know DLNA is explained on FiiO's site (whereas DAC function is not), but the thing is X7 can't never find the server (even if it finded it only one time after several tries and it was able to play hi res audio files only in MP3 resolution).


Whreas the main problem with the DAC function though is that if I play a PCM song higher than 192kHz 24 bit, it shows 176.4kHz or if I play a 16bit song it shows 24 or 32 bit  or if I play 2.8 DSD song, it shows again 176.4kHz PCM - even if I disabled the upmixing/downmixing function with Ponomusic world software (or the JRiver MediaCenter - which is pretty the same) and it says "not using enough bits to output the input directly". But if I change for example the bit streaming on DSD (on the software’s audio settings), no sound but a rustle will come out from the speakers or headphones. So even worse!  

Thanks in advance for the help
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Edited by Yellow at 2016-3-10 18:25
Max_X7 replied at 2016-3-8 23:20
Hello,

I would be greatful if someone can explain me how to use the new 1.8 firmware's main options ...

Hi, Max_x7, would you mind sending the PCM song higher than 192kHZ 24bit to us to test? To the dsd, yes, x7 dac don't support it well. We would upgrade the firmware make them work well. Pls do as the picture to set the Asio Driver Mode to PCM.
x7 usb dsd.jpg
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Post time 2016-3-12 05:03:49 |Show all posts |
Yellow replied at 2016-3-10 18:16
Hi, Max_x7, would you mind sending the PCM song higher than 192kHZ 24bit to us to test? To the dsd, ...

Hello, you can easily find and download hi res files higher than 192/24 in this link: http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html
By the way I don't know how to set these settings since I have a mac and unfortunately I don't know what this 'Asio Driver Mode' is nor where I can find it.

Would you please recommend me the best hi res audio players for mac (which I can use along with the X7 as external DAC)?

Thanks again!
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Post time 2016-3-12 14:02:49 |Show all posts |
Max_X7 replied at 2016-3-12 05:03
Hello, you can easily find and download hi res files higher than 192/24 in this link: http://www.2 ...

You can use and DAP with Mac. Mac does not require any drivers for installation.
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Post time 2016-3-13 00:31:32 |Show all posts |
shitzu replied at 2016-3-12 14:02
You can use and DAP with Mac. Mac does not require any drivers for installation.

Hi shitzu, yes I know but I'm still facing some issues with DSD  files and PCM files higher than 192/24. Plus I can't download foobar (and change the settings as the FiiO Technical Support kindly suggested me) since I'm using a Mac and unfortunately it's available only for Windows.
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Post time 2016-3-13 21:02:24 |Show all posts |
Edited by shitzu at 2016-3-13 21:19
Max_X7 replied at 2016-3-13 00:31
Hi shitzu, yes I know but I'm still facing some issues with DSD  files and PCM files higher than 1 ...

Yes Foobar is only developed for Windows user.
I have a solution.
You can download Virtual Machine like "Parallels " on your mac and install windows. Therafter you can install Foobar in windows like normal users  do. You can operate windows through Parallels and have 2 operating systems operate simultaneously.

This is how most people do who want windows and windows app to work on Mac.
Cheers.

OR
Have you tried using AudirVana Plus  OR JRivers app for Mac. This is the best app for HD files for Mac and can play anything that you throw at it.
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Post time 2016-3-15 05:41:48 |Show all posts |
Edited by Max_X7 at 2016-3-15 06:02
shitzu replied at 2016-3-13 21:02
Yes Foobar is only developed for Windows user.
I have a solution.
You can download Virtual Machine  ...

Hello shitzu, first of all thank you for your help. Some time ago I was using Parallels for mac, but back then I deleted it because it was making my mac slower. Right now I'm using PonoMusicWorld software to play hd files (which has the same functions and layout as JRiver, but it's free). So I guess the only way is to try AudirVana Plus. I didn't try it yet because I saw I have to pay for it, but if it's the only solution for mac users..

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Max_X7 replied at 2016-3-15 05:41
Hello shitzu, first of all thank you for your help. Some time ago I was using Parallels for mac, bu ...

Yes most of the Mac apps are against payable basis.  I personally use Audirvana+  and  jRivers.
You can try jRivers ists very good just like it works on windows. Or there is another free HD music application for mac called VOX. get it.

Parallels has improved a lot. The latest parallels works fantastic with El Capitan  system on Mac.
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shitzu replied at 2016-3-15 13:49
Yes most of the Mac apps are against payable basis.  I personally use Audirvana+  and  jRivers.
Yo ...

Yeah I also use JRiver sometimes, but since PonoMusic is free and has the same features I use it. By the way, if you also use JRiver, could you please tell me which settings are you using to play DSD files using the X7 as external dac? Because I'm having problems with both (Jriver and Ponomusic softwares) playing DSD files.

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Max_X7 replied at 2016-3-16 05:21
Yeah I also use JRiver sometimes, but since PonoMusic is free and has the same features I use it.  ...

Sorry  Max_X7 I currently donot have the X7. I am using my X5II as Transport source. I dont use Jriver much. Have left settings in as default. It piocks up file type as auto.
However in Audirvana + you can set the settings for DSD files. Here is the snapshot of Audirvana + app.



X7 should select the DSD file automatically. I dont think it has any settings to do that as in the case of X5ii.
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Ok, thanks. I will try with Audirvana app then I guess. As I wrote some posts ago, the main problem with the DAC function I faced is that if I play a PCM song higher than 192kHz 24 bit, it shows 176.4kHz or if I play a 16bit song it shows 24 or 32 bit  and if I play 2.8 DSD song, it shows again 176.4kHz PCM - even if I disabled the upsampling/downsampling function with Ponomusic world software (or the JRiver MediaCenter - which is pretty the same) and it says "not using enough bits to output the input directly". But if I change for example the bit streaming on DSD (on the software’s audio settings), no sound but a rustle will come out from the speakers or headphones. So even worse!

In your settings though I can read 'DSD to PC algorithm': does it mean it will convert DSD files into PCM ones? There isn't a way to play DSD files directly?


PS:Since you got the X5ii, did you have the chance to try also the X7 and compare them? Do you think there is a big difference in sound quality? And do you have to use the X5ii with an external amp every time or it's 'ok' also without one? I'm asking you that because since X7 doesn't have 2 card slots (and, as you already know, hi res files are really big) I was considering to switch to the X5ii..what do you think?
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Edited by shitzu at 2016-3-17 13:22

I personally feel my rig (X5II + E12A) sound is almost in par to the X7. I am very happy with my rig. I like it more with the Extn amp as the combo gives you an excellent neutral transparent and large soundstage with great brightness. After all music is subjective to everyones ears I cannot say what you will like.
But I do say that you try the combo I have and you will never regret it. That is the reason I did not buy the X7.
Also though X7 may have Sabre chips and is superior device but  the combo of X5II+E12A is just one step behind.
Yes X5II gives you advantage of two SD card slot and you can load more HD resolution files. I suggest if any of your colleagues or friends or the dealer has the combo I have . Go try it first and then see if you like which better the X7 or my type of Combo. Cheers.

No Audirvana will play Native DSD file if you do not deselect auto detection. I have not used much of DSD files. I maintained all Flac collection and go by Folder browsing on my DAP and never faced strutters or hangs. I do not believe in Playlist style of browsing. Perhaps that is my personal  way of organising my files.

Also Note Audirvarna+ is a paid application. I myself have a licensed app.
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Yeah, I heard X5ii+E12A is one of the best combo out there. But to be honest, regarding portability, I don't know if I will use this combo daily (due to its high thickness). Plus, I heard the new AM2 should be as good as the E12A - or even better  (i.e. you can read this article http://www.head-fi.org/products/ ... or-x7/reviews/15446). So even if I love the possibility to have 2 sd cards with the X5ii, at the same time I do prefer the X7's increased portability for every day use. That's why I'm still not 100% decided for the X7 or X5ii.

About Audirvana+, I think I will try the free trial mode and see if I will be able to play DSD files using the X7 as external DAC. By the way I was wondering, if you don't use the 'integer mode' in Audirvana+'s audio settings, can it play DSD files correctly (through direct path) or you won't be able to hear any sound?
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Yeah, I heard X5ii+E12A is one of the best combo out there. But to be honest, regarding portability, ...

I spoke to  a friend and he says it plays the DSD file through direct path. Only that the DSD file cannot be above DSD128.
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shitzu replied at 2016-3-17 13:24
I spoke to  a friend and he says it plays the DSD file through direct path. Only that the DSD file ...

Ok, thanks. So I don't know why it doesn't work for me
I guess I will try Audirvana+ asap and let you know if I will still have any problems with it.

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Edited by Max_X7 at 2016-3-18 08:02

Update: I just downloaded Audirvana+ and tried to play some DSD files through direct path but it is still not working (it's working only with your settings, but it resamples the file from DSD to PCM, so it's not the real direct path I would like to hear).
I tried several settings though (you can see all screenshots at the end for each audio settings):
_from the one like yours (Native DSD capabilities: "Automatic detection") where it shows in green only PCM from 44.1 to 192 (no DSD)

but I had the same resampled from DSD 64 to 24/176.2kHz PCM

_to the "initial dCS method" or "DSD over PCM standard 1.0 and 1.1" where it shows in green also DSD 64

but even if now it's right showing DAC: DSD 64 Stereo

I could hear only a rustle coming out from the headphone/speakers..

Also when I tried 352kHz files, it resampled them to 192 PCM..

So I still really don't know what's the problem to be honest, if the X7's firmware or the mac's software. But I also tried without the 'integer mode' and it still didn't work with DSD files or PCM higher than 192kHz..


Can I ask you which software (El Capitan?) and hardware (a new MacBook Pro?) are you using? And if you try the settings I just tried, do you experience the same issues as mine or does it work on yours?
352 to 192 PCM.png
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Edited by shitzu at 2016-3-18 12:13
Max_X7 replied at 2016-3-18 07:30
Update: I just downloaded Audirvana+ and tried to play some DSD files through direct path but it is  ...

Most use this with DSD-capable DACs and let the software upsample PCM to DSD128 and beyond. I have a feeling it could be the X7 DAC . Since the dac part of software was added later to the X7 by way of software upgrade could be a beta stage.
I suggest you check with Fiio support. Meanwhile I will check around with some friends and try to get back with more info.



Check here too

http://www.audiostream.com/conte ... HCjCQB3GDHSxaT0m.97

And here:
http://www.exasound.com/Blog/tab ... -exaSound-DACs.aspx
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Edited by Max_X7 at 2016-3-19 02:23
shitzu replied at 2016-3-18 11:45
Most use this with DSD-capable DACs and let the software upsample PCM to DSD128 and beyond. I have  ...

Thanks for the links. I think I did it right since I choosed the 'DSD over PCM standard 1.0', infact the DSD 64 option was highlighted/green but then only a rustle was coming out from my headphones/speakers. So I guess the problem is the X7's firmware which right now doesn't support the Native DSD capability (which explains also why in the Automatic detection mode Audirvana+ doesn't hilights the DSD 64 capability).

And about your second link (where also the 384 PCM option seems to be highlighted/green), I think you need to buy a DAC from exasound in order to do that. But to be honest the reason I bought the X7 is because I wanted to use it also as an external DAC for both PCM and Native DSD - without the need of buying another DAC only for Native DSD capability or PCM higer than 192kHz! :/
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